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More grist for the propaganda mill
Sophisticated defense of Genocide
AThe truth is based on undisputed facts (dates, events etc), and in relation to opinion, the truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Unfortunately, the two previous "reviewers," instead of treating this book for what it is, i.e. a valuable primary source from the Serb point of view, they dismiss it on the grounds that is written by a University of Belgrade professor...This book provides valuable and serious insight in understanding the Serbian psyche. It is a "must" for any serious historian or political analyst interested in the Balkan region.


Complete waste of the time
Great book!
Excellent writting, great book!

The Serbs were the victims.For instance, Dragnich maintains the Serb government had nothing to do with the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Of course he ignores the facts that the Black Hand terrorist group was supported by the Serb intelligence group of the Army.
Dragnich states Princip was just a fanatical Bosnian Serb. He also blames Franz Ferdinand because he should not have ventured to Bosnia during the time because of the Serb national holiday.
This is just one instance where Dragnich ignores the facts and says the victims were the Serbs and not the Archduke and his wife.
For the remainder of the book, Dragnich portrays the Croats, Slovenes, and Muslims as benefiting from Serb rule. This would be like equating a colony as a good experience for those ruled.
Atrocities, well the Croats and Muslims were more guilty than the Serbs. This is the context of this book.
At the very least, one gains an idea of what the Serbs have in their heads. This explains what happened in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. The Serbs say let us take back what we gave them. It might not be true, but this is how they explain their actions.
Biased and incomplete.
An EXCELLENT study on Yugoslavia!Apart from the thousands that have died in the 1990's during the Yugoslav civil war, another victim of war has been the truth, as is the case in most wars, especially in the 20th century.
The truth is based on undisputed facts (dates, events etc), and in relation to opinion, the truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Unfortunately, the two previous "reviewers," instead of treating this book for what it is, i.e. a valuable primary source from the Serb point of view, they dismiss it on the grounds that is written by a University of Belgrade professor. A rather childish and yet dangerous reaction.
In a democracy all voices should be heard instead of being immediately disregarded on the basis of their origin. One cannot and should not silence another just because they disagree with them!
This book provides valuable and serious insight to the understanding of the Serbian psyche. It is a "must" for any serious historian or political analyst interested in the Balkan region.


Who wants to reintroduce a "Macedonian question"?-----------------------------------------------------------
In less then a year time span, the academic world was offered two accounts of the so-called Macedonian Question. First, in 1999, James Pettifer edited The New Macedonian Question, and then, in 2000, Victor Roudometof presented his The Macedonian Question. Both books were compiled by visiting professors at academic institutions based in Thessaloniki, Greece, Petiffer at the Institute of Balkan Studies, Roudometof at American College Of Thessaloniki. Given the political situation in the Southern Balkans, this fact raises the question about who wants to reintroduce a "Macedonian question" in the academic and indirectly, in the policy making world, and in whose interest this might be. An informed observer would immediately notice that both monographs are biased in the selection of essays and themes covered. Roudometof, for example, writing a book concerning Macedonia, does not include a single contribution from authors originating from Republic of Macedonia, while Petiffer has two reprints of articles and only one new piece written by a Macedonian sociologist. In any case let's turn our attention to the latest of the two books, The Macedonian Question.
In the introduction of the book Roudometof provides the background to the current state of affairs (p.2), briefly describing the reemergence of the Macedonian question in Balkan politics. Unfortunately, he does this with many inaccuracies and a Greek bias. An early sign of this bias is the editor's usage of the acronym "FYROM" instead of Republic of Macedonia. Given that the reference FYROM is to be used in official UN documents, and the book discussed is obviously not being a part of the UN system, then it is clear that the author himself have decided to use the acronym, instead of the name of the country chosen by itself, Republika Makedonija or Republic of Macedonia in English. Furthermore, the author very early in the introduction poses a link between Macedonia and Kosovo claiming that ^Óover the last two decades the persisting internal political conflict between Albanians and Macedonians has carried with it the seeds of civil unrest and possibly civil war and then asserts that the possibility of limited autonomy or independence for the Kosovo Albanians (including the option of unification with the Albanian state) could set a precedent for FYROM's own Albanian population. (p.2, 3) Doing so, the author proposes that there is a deep enmity among the Macedonians and Macedonian Albanians (two decades of conflict, civil war,) ignores the facts that Serbia's policies in Kosovo have nothing in common with Macedonia's political arrangements and internal party relations, the first being autocratic and exclusionist, the second one being based on democratic principles and ethnic moderation. Further on, Roudometof explains that in the early 1990's the latest twist in the Macedonian Question occurred, as a direct consequence of the disintegration of the second Yugoslavia.(p.3) The reader is puzzled what is the "Macedonian Question" and consequently how long has it lasted (why is it now that the latest twist occurred)? Indeed nowhere in the introduction Roudometof, answers "what is it about", and 'why it is a question' (Macedonian). Posing Macedonia as a "question" is rather different then talking about the contemporary issues concerning Macedonia. Problematizing Macedonia's identity has been long lasting Greek, Bulgarian, and Serbian strategy. Ever since Macedonia was partitioned by the three in the Balkan Wars 1912/1913, its majority Macedonian native population has been object of fierce assimilation policies aimed at questioning, destroying and/or modifying the Macedonian identity into Greek, Bulgarian, and Serbian. Even today, Macedonian national identity is denied by the Greek and Bulgarian official circles not only in Pirin and Aegean Macedonia which are under their jurisdiction and where only small fragments of Macedonian minority still openly declare their Macedonianess, but also in relation to the Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia itself. Sadly, enough in the introduction Roudometof indicates that he has taken this view. For example, he writes the central contemporary controversy concerns the manner in which Bulgarians, Greeks and Macedonians view and interpret Macedonian identity. In particular, conflict centers on the premise that the Slavs of Macedonia [sic] constitute a distinct nation, the Macedonian nation and further on, ..human rights advocates in Bulgaria and Greece have suggested the existence of Macedonian minorities in both states. Thus, the author leaves open the question of the existence of Macedonian nation both in Republic of Macedonia and in Greece and Bulgaria, for why else he would write that there are reports that suggest existence, and that the conflict is over the premise that there is a Macedonian nation. Macedonians as distinct people are a fact which gives difficult times to Sofia and Athens, but why does it make Roudometof uncertain is hard to grasp. In fact, later on in the text the author states that Western academia discovered Macedonians as ethnic group in Canada and Australia, which has led to a debate about the status of the Macedonian "ethnicity" before 1945. He then goes to say that this is far from an academic issue and that at stake is the very distinctiveness of the Macedonians as a separate people, and this in turn is closely associated with their claim [italics mine] to form the Macedonian nation (p.12). At the last page of the brief introduction Roudometof appears prophetic stating as a final note I would like to add that the saga of the Macedonian Question is far from over (p.18). His last words on the matter hint in what kind of direction the book will aim: since the central theme of the Macedonian Question is the social construction of national homogeneity and identity, the historical social sciences can and should contribute to the production of relevant knowledge (p.18).
Loring Danforth's piece is exactly concerned with the question of social construction of identity. Danforth underlines the importance of social upbringing and personal histories for the construction of national identities. Once the members of a single ethnic group originating from northwestern Aegean Macedonia moved into Australia they manifested conflicting national identities. For these people the church served as a significant marker of national identity and they established three different National churches in Melbourne, Australia. Greek state policies vis-à-vis this ethnic group and different interpretation of the local history permeates the feelings and actions of the immigrants. Anastasia Karakasidou's essay strikes a similar note to the one written by Danforth. Karakasidou meticulously analyses the process of assimilation or acculturation of the indigenous population of Northwest Aegean Macedonia into the Greek cultural realm. Karakasidou's evidence that, among the population of the region, Greeks were a substantial minority at the time of the incorporation of this area to the Greek state is perplexing. So is the Greek official terminology for the local Slavo-Macedonians used at the time:
"Voulgharophrones, fanatic Bulgarians, Schismatics, Patriarchists," etc., despite the fact that the bulk of the people who spoke Slavic (i.e. Macedonian dialects) called themselves Macedonians (p.64). As the study shows, these Macedonians, through emigration, forced deportation, refugee resettlement of Asia Minor Greeks, repression, violence and voluntary assimilation have nowadays become a minority population of North Greece(Aegean Macedonia). Especially gruesome is the cited story in which a Greek policeman becomes angry at a Macedonian farmer, who accidentally cursed a recalcitrant ox in his own language rather then Greek, and extinguishes a burning cigarette on the farmer's tongue. Unfortunately enough, the repression of Macedonian language and identity is still part of Greek politics and therefore, to assess the share of the Macedonian population in this country is very intricate. As a final note, I should mention that Karakasidou's study suffers from an unexpected imprecision, as she refers to works that are not mentioned in the list of references. (Her work referred to on pages 58, 61, 65, as well as Danforth's reference on page 84).
Basil Gounaris and Iakovos Mihailidis' "The Pen and the Sword" critically analyses the interplay between politics and historiography. Trying to debunk political agendas by historians writing on the topic of Macedonia the authors point out to a very important detail, a not surprising statement for experienced
analysts of Balkan history, but often overseen by partisan historians and policy makers: "Until the early 1960's few of those who wrote about Macedonia, in the Balkans or in Western Europe, were academics, and even fewer if any at all were professional histo
Greek Denial of the Macedonian NameTwo things to remember:
1. It is ironic that Greeks now "love Macedonia" when they tried to eradicate its very existence.
2. If Macedonia has always been Greek, why did the Greek government deny its existence until the 1980's?


Translation of a bitter ex-communist
Insider¿s view

Horrible
Long, dry apology mirrors western approach to Bosnian peaceIn this book, Lord Owen missed a glorious opportunity to expose the countess agendas and duplicities he faced from all sides. He could have spoken his mind but instead chose to remain a politician. In the end, this book is really just another apology for the shameful failure of Western collective security.
Self-serving apologetics

Extract from ¿Books on Bosnia¿, London 1999
Weak at places, interesting at others

Extract from ¿Books on Bosnia¿, London 1999

Nothing new here

Kirila Stavreva is a national Betrayer !Bulgaria - one god, one law, one nation ! Amen..
it is time to move onIn the following exegesis, I would like to address two matters: 1) the author's inspiring account of Bulgaria's rich historical and cultural heritage, accomplished with loving pathos and patriotism which should satisfy the highest expectations of the most demanding compatriots; and 2) the unfortunate testament to the lack of civilized and contemporary progressive understanding of the complexity of the making of a nation and the lack of patriotic integrity, which have been so profoundly expressed in the series of completely undeserved ill-intended and hateful reviews which Dr. Stavreva's work has received.
Let me turn to the first subject of my intent. I, too, since many reviewers proclaim as a point of authoritative prerogative, am Bulgarian. So are the author and a handful of other sober minded reviewers (Svetlana, Roumyana Slabakova, Zlatko Anguelov). I came upon Dr. Stavreva's book back in 1997 while browsing a bookstore's shelves to satisfy my couriosity what Americans would read to learn about my country. My attention was naturally called by the Bulgarian name of the author of Bulgaria (Cultures of the World). I was surprised even more pleasantly by the engaging and lively narrative of the book which winds diligently and with erudition down the intertwained paths of our rich and not-so-easy to explain history. What surprised me most is the author's intelligent and very humanistic portrayal of Bulgaria's diverse ethnic population and the challenges which this diversity poses for a small nation which has had to defend its identity on so many occasions in its history. For that I congratulate the author for her genuine humanism and patriotic integrity.
Let me address the second subject of my response. It is an unfortunate fact that the national shovinism and misunderstood national identity are still part of the mentality of some Bulgarians (even more so the ones who have chosen to place the Atlantic Ocean as a natural geographical line of separation between them and the difficulties of their fatherland ). The blind rage which penetrates some of the reviews is a result of two causes: 1) the reviewers' understandable ignorance of the process of book publishing in the US; and 2) the reviewers' misunderstood patrotism which is a remnant of the prejudice and uninformed citisenship, fostered in our schools 30-20 years ago. I regret that I am compelled to recall two facts from our not so remote history in order to make my point: the first one is a brilliant example of Bulgarian humanism which has entered the pages of world history: Bulgaria did not participate in the anti-semitic hatred of its allies. And today we are proud of this. The second one is a very unfortunate example: our long-lasting communist leader attempted to erase the Muslim minority from our enthic landscape in the 80es. And today we are not, I hope, so proud of this. So which way do we want to follow in the making of our new, revolutionary and progressive, open and post-communist identity? I think the answer lies in Dr. Stavreva's informed book, opposed by the spirited outbreak of her reviewers. We have given the Western World numerous examples of national integrity and inspiring patriotism. Let us do it again. It is time to move on.
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